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All you guys advocating the CDL license...You do realize that the laws pertaining to most driving offenses are much stricter with a CDL than with a standard driver's license? Hey, If you need a CDL to drive a larger coach then why shouldn't you have to be able to tear your vehicle down to the bare frame and rebuild it???  Lorna 1974 Apache Solid State Pop-Up www.freewebs.com/schinskeapache 1972 Eagle 05 Bus Conversion (Self Conversion) www.freewebs.com/aluminumasylum "The goal of life is living in agreement with Nature" Zeno (335BC-264BC) 
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quote: Lorna, I am not saying you should need a CDL licence, I am saying that if you are going to drive a vehicle(no matter what type) of the size of a class A coach, then it is only fair to the general population that you know how to handle it. I'm not 55 yet, but I am in favor of mandatory road test for ALL drivers when they reach age 55, we all have bad habits that need to be addressed. Jim & Pam 1998 Dodge Dakota 2001 Coleman Santa Fe |
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quote: Where can we learn this? TIA, Jeeper |
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CDL vs Class D is a subject that is hotly debated on the bus boards. About every other month it turns into a screaming match on whether or not it is required, whether or not it should be required, what states require CDL's, what state don't require CDL's, and on and on. Of course also on the bus boards about 80% agree that "sticks-n-staples" rigs should be banned from the roads as being hazardous. Point of view has nothing to do with it. In the state of TN, We are legal. In most states we are legal. In the states that we aren't legal...we are tagged in TN, we follow TN vehicle licensing/registration laws & are covered by those laws in any state that we drive in. As far as what SHOULD be...I think that if you are caught 1 time driving drunk you should loose your license for 90 days. Second time should be permanent. Does this happen in any state that you know of??? I think not. If you feel that RV driver's should be "trained" then you should take classes. I know of too many folks that can pass a driving test but drive like they left their brains at home (even in small passenger cars). I figure that as long as I'm legal then I won't worry about it. Lorna 1974 Apache Solid State Pop-Up www.freewebs.com/schinskeapache 1972 Eagle 05 Bus Conversion (Self Conversion) www.freewebs.com/aluminumasylum "The goal of life is living in agreement with Nature" Zeno (335BC-264BC)
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quote: Although the information contained in this manual is for the Pennsylvania CDL, the general driving instructions including testing and operating air brakes is very well written. Locally, you can pick up a free copy of the manual, but for those outside PA, just download a copy at this link and spend some time reading over the instructions. Drivers Training Manual Most of the drivers manual is interesting, but Section 5.0 specifically deals with operation of air brakes. It covers all the aspects of airbrake systems that you could ever want to know. I have high speed printing equipment available, and since the manual is printable, I'd be happy to print out copies of these manuals if anyone going to the national rally wants one. 2002 Winnebago Journey DL 36GD Freightliner Chassis, Cat 330 Chevy Malibu Toad, Blue Ox Aventa II, USG Brake [This message was edited by Joe-K on Tue June 10 2003 at 10:28 AM.] |
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quote:George, he would not need a P endorsement as long as he does not carry passengers (more than 15) Jim & Pam 1998 Dodge Dakota 2001 Coleman Santa Fe |
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George, without digging deeper, I am confident you are right, I always get it mixed up with those small van type buses that seat less than 15, Our drivers are ALL required to have a CDL B with a P and airbrake endorsements, regardless of what they are driving,even our office staff have to have it (district policy)
Jim & Pam 1998 Dodge Dakota 2001 Coleman Santa Fe |
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if i understand the original question, he asked about calif law? if you weigh over 26,000 lbs and over 40 ft long you need rv endorsement to standard driving license. my spartan does not need air brake adjustments nor draining of air tanks. that is all automatic. i have found nothing complicated about driving with air brakes. if i want to stop i push on the brake pedal. antiskid takes care of me in wet conditions. no need for more dmv rules it is too complicated now.
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I feel every State (Canada, too) has their own version of what license is required - makes it difficult to figure out. Maybe one of these days one of the major RV publications will publish an article covering license requirements.
CDL. Here in Texas, if your vehicle is over 26,000 pounds GVWR (Motorhome, Bus Conversion, etc) or 26,000 pounds CGVWR (truck pulling a trailer) you need a CDL. BUT there are exemptions to the CDL requirement; RV'ers is one (there are about 5 other exemptions). That said, there is NOT an exemption to having a Class A or Class B license (NON-CDL). I think NC is the same (friend lives there and that is what he found). Oregon requires a CDL for trucks, but no license other than regular drivers license for motorhome (MANY large motorhome manufactures in Oregon). If the seats are removed from the bus, you would not need a license for driving a bus, BUT you might need another class of license because of the weight. Most vehicles that have the higher weight rating have air brakes --- normally this is the first thing the license examiner will request you do: an air brake test. If you don't do that properly, you fail. A lot of detail information is available on-line for each state. Check the Commercial Vehicle section of their Drivers License manual and check for exclusions to the CDL requirement. And, no, I have not checked each state YMMV Safe travels. don |
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Here's a link that describes the driver license class system in my jurisdication, Manitoba, Canada.
Driver License Class System It also contains information about classes of license required in USA. This information is found at the bottom of the page. The USA data also contains information about the various types of endorsements that are required under certain conditions. In Canada, anyone towing a 5th wheel in excess of 10,000 lbs. will require a Class 3 license. If you drive a motorhome with air brakes you'll require an air brake endorsement for whatever class of license you hold. To obtain this endorsement you are required to take a written test as well as a practical test on a vehicle of the same class for which you wish to be endorsed. By reciprocal agreement, USA considers any Canadian driver license in Class 1, 2 or 3 to be a CDL. Canuck 2001 F350 PSD EC LB Dually Lariat (SOLD) 2000 Jayco Designer XL 32' 5th with 2 slide outs (SOLD) Searching for a Class A |
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