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I wonder what the fuel economy differences are between the Workhorse and the Ford chassis on the late models..the 2006 and 2007's.
I have the 2006 on the W20 and my mileage has been less than thrilling. Over the first 11,000 miles pulling a CRV I have averaged only 6.4 mpg. What are others getting? 2006 Southwind 32 VS W-20 2003 CRV EX Toad, Ultra Power & Taylor Wires, IPD Anti-Sway Bars, Safe-T-Plus, Koni FSD's, VIP Tow Brake, Freedom 2k Inverter, Demco Tow Bar,Moto Sat, OEM Fuel Filter, and Rocky the Choc Lab |
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I have a workhorse W20 33' voyage and I have get 5.something never 6
05 Voyage 33v WH USCG Ret BMCM |
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Rocky 2,
I'm suprised at your fuel consumption, especially since I notice you have Ultrapower installed. We have the Banks exhaust (stock air intake) and averave 7+ towing the VUE. I always drive between 55 and 62MPH and pretend I have a raw egg between my foot and the accelerator pedal. You might want to contact Mike at Brazil's RV or Redlands Truck. (see the Workhorse section of this forum) Paul PS: Was your 2K inverter an aftermarket installation? If yes, any info on where and how you installed it would be appreciated as I'm considering one. Paulin 2007 Jayco Seneca HD 34SS Duramax VUE V6 toad "Monty", "Maggie" & "Murphy" the mighty Shih-Tzus FMCA F375077 |
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"Newmar Owners Forum Moderator"  |
Rocky 2, I was getting your figures before having ECM programed in Tenn. Now get 2-3 mpg difference. Up in high 8's low 9s. Take a run down in Workhorse forum and you will see others that have improved mileage. Ask Mike, from Brazels what he thinks can be done to improve your mileage.
 He works with Redlands if thats where you had it done.  "VISIT the QUICK TIPS & EASY MODS in the Newmar Forum. Just click on the link BELOW http://irv2.infopop.cc/eve/for...6094452/m/5241039112 "He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare." 7 TT's to start 73-85 Tommy 86 Class C Ford -460 GBM 88 CA-2 Ford 460 John Deer Fleetwood-96 34J Bounder F-53 Ford v-10 Newmar--98 KS 3765 Ford F-53 v10 add Leaf Springs Newmar--99 MA3778 Ford F-53 V-10 add Air-Lift Air bag sys. Newmar--03 KS-3740 Workhorse W-22, Bilsteins, TRC Surge protector, Brazels Ultrapower ECM, AC 41-932-gap .045 Plugs, Taylor ES 99615, Brazels CAI, Henderson Trac-bar, Garmin c330 GPS,FMCA#262681, NKK 10811  |
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This is on a 2004 W20. I was getting about 6.3 mpg pulling a Jeep Wrangler. Had Ultrapower installed (reburn, CAI, plug wires and re-gap; no exhaust changes), and on our last trip I averaged 7.2mpg overall with a noticeable difference in power and torque. Have about 12K miles on the coach now, so more breakin may add to the mpg. At least, I can hope
2004 Southwind 32VS Workhorse W20 Jeep Wrangler Blue Ox/Apollo |
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Mike has been working on the mpg issue with me. The ECM has been reprogrammed (3 times total)and still not much luck.
Bluebird, I had the inverter-charger installed at Camping World on one of their specials. Without unnecessarily bad-mouthing CW and Xantrex, find another spot. The first unit was bad out of the box and Xantrex will not pay labor to replace their stuff. CW charged me to remove and replace the bad unit..which failed the first time I used it. 2006 Southwind 32 VS W-20 2003 CRV EX Toad, Ultra Power & Taylor Wires, IPD Anti-Sway Bars, Safe-T-Plus, Koni FSD's, VIP Tow Brake, Freedom 2k Inverter, Demco Tow Bar,Moto Sat, OEM Fuel Filter, and Rocky the Choc Lab |
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Strange that your W20 gets such poor mpg, even stock. My 2002 W22 gets a consistent 7.3 mpg loaded to near max and towing 3500 lbs besides. I recently crossed the country and did a lot of interstate cruising at 65+ - still got 7.3 or better all the way, in all kinds of weather and terrain.
Gary Brinck 2004 American Tradition 2007 GMC Acadia Homebase in the Ocala Nat'l Forest near Ocala, FL |
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wilanddij Thanks for the reply. I was looking for info specific to the Southwind 32VS and you gave it. It looks like your "before" mpg was the same as mine. Your "after Ultra Power" mileage improved more than mine has so far. Bluebird, looks like the 03 and 04 years have been heard from and my 06. That barn door front end design sure pushs a lot of air. Perhaps the later designs are just less efficient. Thanks to both of you. BTW, I checked the brochures and both the 2003 and 2004 are 12'2" high and the 2005 forward are 12'7" high. That was to accommodate the extra 5" interior height..which I don't like. My wife can't reach the overhead light switches. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Rocky 2, 2006 Southwind 32 VS W-20 2003 CRV EX Toad, Ultra Power & Taylor Wires, IPD Anti-Sway Bars, Safe-T-Plus, Koni FSD's, VIP Tow Brake, Freedom 2k Inverter, Demco Tow Bar,Moto Sat, OEM Fuel Filter, and Rocky the Choc Lab |
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Quote from Rocky 2:
I think you hit the nail on the head with both the Southwind and the Pace Arrow. Fleetwood's design of these two rigs is definitely not wind friendly. Mine's a 2004 and if there's even a little bit of direct or indirect headwind mine slows to a crawl and the mpg goes down the tube. If I'm running on the straight and level, no wind, about the best I get is 6.8, maybe 7.0. Going from Colorado south on I-25 thru New Mexico it's pretty much level to downhill and I approach 7.0. Coming the other direction, forget it. Average about 5 to 5.5 mpg. This is pulling a 3600 lb Colorado Pickup. Bob 2004 Fleetwood 36B Pace Arrow/Workhorse W22 UltraPower Performance ECM w/Cold Air Intake, '04 Colorado Pickup FMCA F291896 US Navy - Carrier Battlegroup '59/'63 Amateur Radio - WA0MQE |
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"Fleetwood Owners Forum Member" |
Bob, I have also thought about the,"barn door," effect as was mentioned. Do you think the Pace's and Southwind's, etc. are any worse than the others in wind design? All seem to me to be pretty typical of each other in front end design. An interesting point. Are we worse?
I have an 05 Pace 36B which is factory out of the box stock, and after 9,200 miles seem to be doing about the same as you in MPG pulling a 4000 lb. Liberty, except I can't recall ever getting in the low 5's. mainly traveling Utah & surrounding western states. I've kept really close track on dollars vrs. gals. Is the UltraPower doing what you hoped it would? Pat 2005 Pace Arrow 36B FBP, W24 04 Liberty Toad 06 Silverado 4x4 Toad SMI's braking sys. Bilstein to Koni's ??? |
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