Our Mission: "Efficiently support the thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experiences among RV enthusiasts"
 
RV Parts and Accessories by RVupgrades.com
    iRV2.com RV Forum  Hop To Forum Categories  RV LIFE STYLES  Hop To Forums  Family Motor Coach Association    "Up pipes" generator exhaust updraft pipes
Page 1 2 

Moderators: edgray
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
"Newmar Owners Forum Member"

Picture of Triton
Posted
Where does one find generator updraft exhaust pipes?
FMCA NE rallies require them.


Fred Lane
2005 Dutch Star
Grand Cherokee Toad
 
Posts: 41 | Registered: October 04, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Winnebago Coach Forum Member"

Posted Hide Post
You can order one from Camping World. It's called a Genturi.
 
Posts: 266 | Location: On the road, USA | Registered: June 08, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Winnebago Coach Forum Member & iRV2 Contributor"

Picture of wthomas1
Posted Hide Post
Look for gen-turi, I bought mine at Camping World.


Wayne & Roberta
SoSo, our blind PBGV
2008 Winnebago Destination 39W
8.1 Vortec UFO Chassis
Surge Guard - Clean Dump
2006 Honda CRV Toad with SMI Stay in Play Duo and Blue Ox Aladdin Tow Bar
1960 Corvette
FMCA: F395373 WIT:W145770 WCMC

The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have.

'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'



 
Posts: 544 | Location: Sonoma County, CA | Registered: August 30, 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Newmar Owners Forum Member"

Picture of Triton
Posted Hide Post
When I was at my first FMCA rally in Brownsville FL this February I was very concerned about carbon monoxide poisoning. On a quiet, no wind evening the stench was unbearable. CO is odorless but diesel exhaust is not. At the time I did not realize my propane/CO detector required two 1 Amp fuses. I had only one installed for the propane detector, none for the CO detector. The coaches were packed so close together one could not leave until your neighbor moved.
I would be interested in knowing if anyone has gotten sick or worse from this problem.

Thank you Larry Shaw for your contribution from the “RV Generator Handbook”
quote:

Statement Regarding Exhaust Extensions
Cummins Power Generation, manufacturer of Cummins Onan generator products, does not endorse the use of RV generator exhaust pipe extensions. Like all fuel burning devices, engine-driven generators emit carbon monoxide (CO) which, if not safely handled, can produce serious injury or death.
Cummins Onan generators, in conjunction with RV OEM installed tailpipes, are designed to meet RVIA standards for safely handling exhaust gasses while minimizing noise and maximizing generator performance. Improper modifications to the exhaust components can result in unreasonable hazards to the vehicle occupants.
Cummins Power Generation has been unable to this date to identify any commercially available exhaust extension kit which meets reasonable standards for safely handling exhaust gases.

Cummins Power Generation’s concerns revolve around 6 areas:
1. Weight: Unless entirely self supporting, extensions add weight to the end of the generator tail pipe which can stress and crack or break the exhaust system parts that are not designed to carry the additional weight. This could result in exhaust gases escaping directly under the coach, and therefore could be extremely dangerous to vehicle occupants.
2. Fit: To be effective conveyors of exhaust, connections & joints must be gastight. Such connections are not guaranteed unless the exhaust extension kit is properly assembled each time it is used.
3. Exhaust Direction: Because exhaust extensions vent at the roof line, there is a major concern that exhaust will be sucked in by rooftop air conditioners, vents and windows.
4. Heat: Many extension designs involve exposed metal that can be a burn hazard to anyone passing by who might contact the exposed extension pipe.
5. Backpressure: Adding an extension may increase backpressure on the engine, and thereby reduce engine performance or cause the engine to fail meeting government-regulated exhaust standards.
6. Warranty: The use of an exhaust extension kit may void the Cummins Onan warranty.
Larry Shaw


I had hoped “Up pipes” might be the solution. Well now, asphyxiation from below or asphyxiation from above? Not a great choice. Are the only reasonable alternatives electric hookups or skip the rally?

More space between coaches could be a possible solution. Anyone have a suggestion on minimum spacing for those choosing to use generators?

This is such a wonder forum for ideas. Perhaps we can come up with practical solutions for rally organizers and attendees.


Fred Lane
2005 Dutch Star
Grand Cherokee Toad
 
Posts: 41 | Registered: October 04, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"National RV Owners Forum Member"

Picture of rogueii
Posted Hide Post
Electric hook up could be provided. Cost would be increased.


04 SeaBreese LX 8341 / Workhorse W-22 / GM 8.1 / Allison 5 Speed / Brazel's ULTRAPOWER Upgrade/Taylor Extreme Service Plug Cables/DIY-CAI
06 Honda CRV4/SE/all wheel drive with Falcon II / Roadmaster 9000 Braking System
200-Watts Solar / Xantrex Prosine 2000 Inverter
Bob & Judy & Bedlington Terrier-"Peg o" My Hart"
"Today-Is The Tommorow you worried about Yesterday"

 
Posts: 479 | Location: Florida | Registered: February 23, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"WCMC Member"

Posted Hide Post
I made mine from 2" ABS pipe and a 2x1.5x2 sanitary tee. Seems to work well.

Did anyone see the news story about the guy who died at the last Indy 500 race. He died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the RV camping area.

George
 
Posts: 174 | Location: La Crescenta, CA USA | Registered: December 25, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post

Posted Hide Post
I have a genturi and think that they should be manditory all rallys due to the exhaust smell and danger.
 
Posts: 1 | Registered: May 11, 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Workhorse Ambassador"
"President WCMC"
"Newmar Owner's
Forum Member"

Picture of edgray
Posted Hide Post
homey54: Welcome to iRV2.com Party Glad you joined and have now made your first post. FWIW, I agree with your statement.

We look forward to hearing more from you in future posts! THANKS, ED


Newmar 2003 KSCA 3740 W-22 WB242". Henderson SS302 05 Vue V6 with US Gear toad brake, Blue Ox Alexus tow bar.
 
Posts: 2357 | Location: Way down yonder, below New Orleans | Registered: October 25, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Winnebago Coach Forum Member"

Picture of Tom N
Posted Hide Post
At a rally ask Onan about using a Venturi on an Onan generator.

-Tom


"The people that don't believe in evolution are the ones who need it most!"

Sarver, PA/Crystal River, FL/Indiana, PA
2005 Suncruiser 38R, W24 chassis, no chassis mods needed
2008 Honda Odyssey EX-L, Roadmaster Sterling tow bar
FMCA 335149, WCMC, Mystic Knights of the Sea, On the Road Again


 
Posts: 3480 | Location: Sarver, PA/Crystal River, FL/Indiana, PA | Registered: December 19, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
"Workhorse Ambassador"
"President WCMC"
"Newmar Owner's
Forum Member"

Picture of edgray
Posted Hide Post
TOM: been there, done that. At an FMCA Convention "roundtable" presentation by represenatives from several genset manufactureres, this concept was hashed and re-hashed. The reps ALL said they could not endorse or recommend the use of ANYTHING that modifys their engineered design. After much "hashing" they all admitted that their position about not suggesting "up pipes" was driven more by their legal departments than by concerns about damage to the gensets. HOWEVER, they did make the obligatory warnings about "possible" warranty denials IF such devices "may" have caused a failure.

I've tried to accurately described the roundtable to the best of my memory. Take my comments for what they are worth. I will run the risk of damaging my genset before I'll spew exhaust towards the coach beside me. ED


Newmar 2003 KSCA 3740 W-22 WB242". Henderson SS302 05 Vue V6 with US Gear toad brake, Blue Ox Alexus tow bar.
 
Posts: 2357 | Location: Way down yonder, below New Orleans | Registered: October 25, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community Page 1 2  
 

    iRV2.com RV Forum  Hop To Forum Categories  RV LIFE STYLES  Hop To Forums  Family Motor Coach Association    "Up pipes" generator exhaust updraft pipes

© irv2.com 2008