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Perhaps just residual gas in the line near the range and the air hadn’t got there yet.


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Daryl: It was 37 here this morning.

Highturn: Thanks for the info on the regulator.

Rusty JC: I am puzzled as well. Furnace and range worked great last night with new cylinder. I don't think there was any air trapped in the lines after we ran the range - we ran it for quite some time.

I am thinking maybe the burners on the range require less gas to work properly than the furnace would (don't know - just guessing). Thanks again for all your help.

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Update:

I switched cylinders to opposite sides. The older cylinder worked fine in the new position. This told me that I don't have a moisture problem with that tank. Tried new cylinder at its new position, same problem. Swiched valve back to the side that works and let it run awhile. Started to work fine. At this time I switched valve back to the problematic side and let the furnace run til the air started to cool. I then switched the valve back to the working side. After switching the valve back and forth a few times the furnace started to work properly on either cylinder. This leads me to conclude the following: either there was a restriction in the valve that was worked out by switching back and forth or there was moisture in the long line and it took guite a long time to work its way out. Either way the furnace and range have worked properly for the last 24 hours.

Thanks again guys for your help and ideas.

Paul


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Paul - don't you just love it when you "fix" a problem but don't know what caused the problem?? Whatever, it works and that's all that matters! Big Grin
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So if I'm understanding the conversation correctly, in our Excel when one tank runs out, it will automatically switch to the other tank ? This would be a welcome change, different from the camper we are currently renting. As Murphy's Law would dictate, of course we always run out of one tank in the middle of the night and wake up to a very cold surprise. We also had the surprise of no water the other morning due to very cold winds and cold temps but that's another story. Water is working now and only a few more weeks till our Excel gets here. Yippee !!


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Linda X 2

That is correct. The regulator has a lever and a red green indicator window on top of it. With the lever to the right you are using the curb side cylinder, with the lever left you are using from the street side cylinder. When whichever one you are using from is depleted the indicator will turn red. When this occurs you turn the lever to the other one and the indicator will turn back to green. At that time you get the empty refilled. There is also an electronic refill indicator which you can buy and install inside the coach. It will flash when your primary cylinder is empty.


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Interesting subject. We had a "no furnace heat" situation during auto switchover the other night. Shut control off and then back on and it lit and works great since. Called Marshall Gas and talked with senior engineer Ed Lee (for 48 minutes!). What a great guy! He designed the system for the high pressure regulator on the roadside 7 yrs. ago. Won't bore you with details (cause I don't how know to explain it anyway) but when the switchover takes place it's possible to get a slug of liquid from the roadside tank, especially if it is very cold, which can momentarily jamb the diaphram on the auto changeover regulator. This causes a "lock up". By installing the 30psi high pressure regulator on the roadside it "buffers" this and allows normal operation. There is more to it, but that is the main part. Ed sent me to a interesting website that explains, diagnois, operation, and ect. of this RV propane system. http://shleggitt.com- then click on information. Good stuff. I think he wrote most of the articles in that site. I have a roadside regulator on order.


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Interesting subject. We had a "no furnace heat" situation during auto switchover the other night. Shut control off and then back on and it lit and works great since. Called Marshall Gas and talked with senior engineer Ed Lee (for 48 minutes!). What a great guy! He designed the system for the high pressure regulator on the roadside 7 yrs. ago. Won't bore you with details (cause I don't how know to explain it anyway) but when the switchover takes place it's possible to get a slug of liquid from the roadside tank, especially if it is very cold, which can momentarily jamb the diaphram on the auto changeover regulator. This causes a "lock up". By installing the 30psi high pressure regulator on the roadside it "buffers" this and allows normal operation. There is more to it, but that is the main part. Ed sent me to a interesting website that explains, diagnois, operation, and ect. of this RV propane system. http://shleggitt.com- then click on information. Good stuff. I think he wrote most of the articles in that site. I have a roadside regulator on order.


Got the roadside regulator and installed in about 20 minutes. Everything OK so far. I did have to go and buy a 1/4 NPT X 3/8 flare fitting to adapt to my rubber hose. Donna sent all of the other adapters, etc with the regulator. About $47. with shipping. Now we are up-to-date! Wink


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rockintom,

I feel pretty sure this will solve your problem. I have never had a reoccurrence since I installed the regulator with check valve. I also like the fact that you don't have all that escaping gas in the pipe when you remove the street side cylinder for refill. Check out that remote sensor from Marshall Gas Controls, you will like it.

Bob


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Thanks Bob. I may have to check it out. I am pretty good at checking the regulator indicator though. Haven't run out yet! I'm sure your aware that the indicator usually doesn't go full red until the original tank is empty and the switch over has already taken place and the second tank is about 3/4 full(already used about a 1/4 tank). I was told by Lee that was a "design intent". Normal. Also a bit of fluctation in green to red and back again at the switchover point is normal. Not a perfect science...just an general indicator. Just FYI.


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