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I'm considering a toyhauler trailer to move my seminar gear (in addition to myself) around the country. However, there will be times when I have to park the trailer at a truckstop or large parking lot for perhaps a week at a time. I worry about the "stuff" I have in the garage and will use the best locks I can find on the doors, And I'll install an alarm system on the trailer with a LoJack or GPS phone-home option in case of someone breaking into the trailer.
But for additional security would locking the kingpin make sense? I've seen some pretty flimsy looking locks for $50 or so. However, these look like a smack with a sledge hammer would make short work of them. I did find something pretty husky [see Universal Boot] and I don't mind the $425 cost as long as it slows down potential crooks and make them look for an easier target. Anyplace else I should look for this sort of thing? Any other security options or devices anyone can suggest? SoundGuy |
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While I'm sure that some locks are better than others, I'm reminded of one of my dear departed Dad's trite homiles - "Locks only keep honest people honest."
If I had to drive off and leave my 5th wheel and was worried about someone towing it off, even though it might involve some work, I think I'd just remove the lower section of my pinbox - the part with the kingpin on it - and take it with me. Rusty ---------------------- Tower - 2002 Dodge 3500 Cummins HO/6 speed/4.10LS SLT+ Sport QC LB dually - not quite stock Towee - 2004 DoubleTree Mobile Suites 36RE3 5th wheel Travel Companions - Our Shelties, Annabelle and Coby Come join us on a TEXAS BOOMERS rally! |
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Perhaps.... but I have to do this on a weekly basis. And while alarms systems certainly will help my peace of mind, it's hard to beat "heavy metal" when it comes to slowing down a crook. The final option is let the insurance company deal with any problems, but I've been there, done that. Never works out quite as well as you would like. So, how do you lock up your toyhaulers when you're out playing for the day? SoundGuy |
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"Moderator "Newmar Owners Forum Member"" |
Since my driveway is to small to accommodate my two cars and my 5er I keep it at a storage lot. There are quite a few other 5ers there too. When in storage I do keep a kingpin lock in place (as do most others there). But in a CG I don't bother. Like Rusty said, locks keep the honest people honest.
-------------------- John & Joyce and Libby the Yellow Lab. 2005 Kountry Star FW-35LKSA by Newmar. We just started fulltiming. 2008 Ford F-450, King Ranch, Pearl Blue over Pueblo Gold, CC, PSD, Auto, Integrated TBC, 14,500 GVWR Pkg, Reese 20K Hitch Kountry Klub Member # 13530 / SKP # 098237 To the men and women in the Armed Forces; past, present and future - Thank You and God bless you |
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How about one of those lever action chocks which goes between the 2 wheels of a dual axel trailer? They have a hole for a padlock. I might also consider some kind of wheel lock like the police use to keep vehicles where they are, or some kind of lock through the wheel like bikes use.
John (40' 2004 Country Coach Inspire DP) |
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I bought a HD pin lock from a Pilot truck stop. It looks like a 4" piece of steel tube with 1/2" thick walls. The tumbler lock is a heavy piece of steel welded on one side that, when turned pushes a heavy square key into the pin groove. I think it cost about $35.
I've heard that lock saying since I was a kid,and it's true. Have you ever wondered how thieves steal so many BMW's, Mercedes,Corvettes,etc? Some have lo-jack installed too. Keep in mind you must be notified by police that your lo-jack protected possession is stolen, before you can request that the beacon be activated. By then thieves have destroyed the transmitter. "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of darkness."___Supreme Court Justice William Douglas |
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Yeah, I guess a better alarm system would be one that immediately calls my cell phones and provides updated GPS information. Plus I've found a few of these alarms systems that will call a central switchboard operator who will first call your number, then call the police with the trailer's GPS coordinates if it wasn't an accidental alarm. See HERE. Don't know the install or subscription cost yet, but I'll do some checking. SoundGuy |
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I think as an alternative to all that, and believe me that is a good idea, buy you might contact some of those storage places that have rooms for rent and see if you could arrange to have the trailer stored there. 24 hour security and cameras all over the place. Or possibly arrange with the trailer park where you are parking to store it for a week or so for a small fee.
Don and Lorri 2007 Dodge 3500 dually 2005 Cedar Creek 34 CKTS (For Sale) |
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I made my own king pin lock. I used about a 4" to 5" long piece of heavy wall pipe with an inner diameter just big enough to slip over the kingpin. Two oval holes were cut in side of pipe to allow the shackle of a big padlock to be inserted where the kingpin is narrow. Slip the pipe up over the kingpin, insert the padlock, lock the lock. The lock shackle keeps the pipe from coming off the kingpin and it can't be cut with bolt cutters because it is protected by the pipe. A cutting torch could get it off, but a hacksaw can't. Can the fiver be stolen? YES. Can it be stolen easily? NO. The only cost to me was the padlock. The pipe was some scrap I had laying around.
I do put the kingpin lock on anytime we are unhooked (including campgrounds). We go on day trips while camping and want the fiver to be there when we get back. Theft occurs right in front of people without them knowing it. It is easy to steal a fiver from a campground in plain view of other campers....... Picture this scenario: You return to the campground from shopping. A fiver is in a site a few down from yours. It pulled in when you weren't there. There is no truck with it (they are off site-seeing somewhere). A white pickup (everyone who tows with a white truck raise your hands), backs up to the fiver. A couple gets out. They hook-up, break camp, packing things away as any couple would do. Their keys fit the storage compartments (all our keys do!). They wave as they are leaving with the camper. You wave back and yell put your antenna down. They stop a few hundred yards down the road and take a minute to crank the antenna down. By this time you are trying to get ready to walk the dog. They leave the campground as any other camper would do. A couple of hours later a white truck shows up and wonders where their fiver went. Later, when the police arrive, you give a great description of "this middle age couple with a white truck packed up, hooked up, and left. They even waived. No officer I really did'nt get a good look at them and let me think, was that a Ford or a Dodge truck they were in? Officer I'm sure it was a diesel! Gee we thought that was their rig! You mean they stole it right in front of everyone??? NOTE: I'm a cop, so I think this way. But not everyone in a campground is who they appear to be. You thought they were RV'ers, when in reality they were very experienced thieves. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Two Bit, Robert & Nancy with "Murphy the EOG" KE5NWT 02 F350 7.3 liter PSD CREW CAB DRW 4x4 Lariat auto 4.10 LS Arizona Beige/Black RBW L'il Rocker hitch 02 Holiday Rambler Alumascape 30 SKS 5ver |
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Another thing you could do is to put some type of disable switch on the landing gear motor. Anything that you can do to slow someone down.
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