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I own a 2007 1/2 ton chevy crew cab short box - crew cab was a must for the family. Intended on buying a travel trailer so purchased with 6.0L and Max trailering package. I would prefer to buy a 5th wheel, but I am concerned there may not be adequate clearance between the hitch and cab due to the short bed length. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.
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"Newmar 5th Wheel Forum Member" |
They make slider hitches for your kind of truck. Keeps the 5er from hitting in turns.
But you will be limited on how much trailer you can pull. George 99(9-98)F250XLT/SC/LB/4x2/3.73LS/A-Pillar mounted Tranny tempgauge,PreturboPyro,Boost gauge/JNB BypassReg/ Ford AISw modified intake/ Airlifts/Rancho 9000s/PFP mod/HD Heater shutoff valve/DS Predator Tuner/Spin-on tranny filter/203*TS/Ford Gold Coolant/Coolant filter/OptimaRedTops/ Jimmyjammers w/hoseclamp/Cyclops antistart/Oilguard/MBRP 4"turbobackSSexhaust/Suncoast Extreme tranny/BD exhaust brake/08 Diff Cover/Ford02-04 Headlights. 06 Newmar Cypress 29KSRE 5th wheel,Mor/Ryde IS, Kodiac Disc Brakes |
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"Moderator, Texas Boomer, Vintage RV Owner " |
Howdy and welcome to iRV2. I will link this back to the new members forum as well. With a 1/2 ton truck and a 5er, the biggest problem is the higher pin weight and the limited GVWR on the truck. A typical 5er will average close to 20% of the trailers GVWR on the pin when loaded. A TT runs around 12% on the hitch. You need to weigh the truck with all of the family and normal travel cargo in the truck and add 200# for the 5er hitch. Now subtract the weight of the truck from the GVWR of the truck. The GVWR is located on the sticker inside the door jamb on the truck. This difference is the most hitch or pin weight you can add from a trailer and still be within the trucks rating. The trailer tow ratings that the manufacturers provide are a glamorous number and big, but it is big because it is based on a base model truck, no accessories, no cargo, no hitch and only a 150# driver. every pound you add over the base model, reduces the trailer and cargo capacity the same amount. So for a family, you should concentrate on a a reasonable sized travel trailer to get the most trailer that you can tow. You can get a well towing TT if you purchase a good weight distributing hitch with sway control. I use and like the Reese Dual Cam HP. Truthfully, with the 1/2 ton truck, you will pretty well be maxed out with a 24' 5th wheel trailer and I doubt if that will work with a family. Ken KE5DFR Vintage 1979 Silver streak and a 2002 7.3L Crew Cab Dually w/ a SCMT, Jordan Ultima 2020 brake controller and a Reese Dual Cam HP hitch. Travel with TWO Miniature Schnauzers and one small Parrot.---Practicing for our retirement! Have Flamingo, will travel! Honorary Oklahoma Boomers Check out the Texas Boomers at http://texasboomers.org/ |
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"Moderator" |
I fully agree with Ken on this one. I actually towed my 28'lite weight 5er for a few years with a 1/2, and was on pins and needles everytime I towed. The 1500 will tow the TT just fine, without the suspension,braking issues. My upgraded T/V makes travel much more enjoyable.
brad03ca 2007 GMC Duramax/Allison 6 spd SLT Crew '06 Rockwood 5'er prodigy " He who has a sharp tongue, soon cuts his own throat" |
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"iRV2 Contributor" "Fleetwood Owners Forum Member" 2009 National Rally Committee " |
BRobinson,
Yes, welcome Add me to confirming what Ken stated. In the "real world", 5-r's with enough room for a family are not within the GVWR of a 1/2t truck. You definitely have to take into account all the people & stuff that will be in that truck when figuring what you can safely tow. I know you would prefer a 5-r, but it's more important to be within the limits of the truck you have. Please reconsider a TT. With the proper equipment, you will be able to have a roomier rv in a TT than a 5-r & will be safer in the long run. L- Dave & Lori Stewart 2006 Fleetwood Bounder 36Z, Ford F53 chassis, Triton 6.8L V10, 5-speed / 2006 Jeep Liberty Limited (toad) 2004 Keystone Cougar 286EFS FW / 2003 Chevy 2500 HD 4x4 2001 Thor Aerolite 24RB TT / 2000 Dodge Durango |
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brobinson
my wife has a '06 1500 4x4 crew cab we purchased last fall. As we were signing the paper work I mentioned our 11200 GVWR 5th wheel trailer. The salesman dropped his pen and made the statement GM doesn't recommend pulling a GN or 5th wheel trailer with this truck. I laughed and told him I pull it with my 2500 Dodge/Cummins and the 1500 will pull my tractor with a front loader/mower/box blade doing custom work and nothing else. I just looked at my '06 owners manual and it states on page 4-73 in the towing schedule that the 2wd or 4x4 5.3 or 6.0 1500 crew cab is neither designed nor intended for towing 5th wheel trailer or a GN. I have a '07 Chev towing guide brochure and it states up to 10500 lb tow capacity for a TT. Under the 5th wheel and GN schedule it is blank for a 1500 crew cab truck. I would check your owners manual and dealer on towing a 5er with your '07 1500 crew cab truck. Bummer. Jim '03 Dodge 2500 SB HO 3.73 6SPD Timbrens 16k Reece '97 Park Avanue RK 28' 2 slides |
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Thanks for the feedback, you are a great group. I will turn my attention back to a TT. I would appreciate some feeback on how hard it is to hookup to a TT by yourself. I will be storing this thing at my office and will often be picking it up alone - this was one of the driving forces to look to a 5th wheel originally. I have alot of experience hooking up a bass boat alone - no big deal, you can move the tongue as needed if the hitch is relatively close. Since the TT weighs significantly more, I don't know if this is possible or if it will have to be a 'direct hit' between the hitch and trailer - sorry for such a long post for a simple question. Thanks again.
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I have a Ford F250 and pull a 24-foot Jayco Travel Trailer. I hook up the trailer by myself with no problems at all. The key is to get it lined up left and right and then back up to within one foot of the ball and get out and look. I have to get out 3 or 4 times but I try hard not to have the trailer hitch hit the license plate on my truck. The license plate is just a few inches in front of the ball. Practice makes perfect.
Matt 1998 Jayco 24 foot TT 2000 Ford F250, 7.3, PSD |
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"Monaco Owners Forum Member" |
We have owned 2 TT and 1 5r. The first TT was 28' light weight and worked fine with our 1500 GMC 2wd, super cab 5700 V8. We decided to upgrade to a 32' TT (gvwr 9,800 lbs). I listened to the RV dealer and even did a test pull with the 1500 GMC. First pull to Calloway Gardens went well. The second pull we were heading to the Blueridge Parkway about 2 hours from the house. We got about ten miles away and had to make a stop. The torque converted and tranmission gave way. The truck was towed to the dealership and I borrowed my brother F250 to get the trailer home.
Bottom line, I listened to the RV dealer who said the truck tow the trailer fine. What I didn't do but should have, was know what the trucks GVWR, GCWR and towing capacity of the truck. I was exceeding every capacity and am lucky nothing worse happened. I repaired the truck and traded it in on an F250 crewcab, 4wd, with the 7.3L powerstroke. It has pulled the 36' 12,000 lbs 5r for 3 years now. Maker sure you know the tow capacity of your truck, the weight of the trailer and the king pin or hitch weight of the 5r. This weight is added to the weight of the truck. You will most likey be exceeding this limit first. When you add fuel, people, stuff and the 5r king pin weight, that can't exceed you truck GVWR. Hope this helps? 2008 Monaco Monarch 34SBD Ford F 53 Chassis 2007 Ford Explorer V8 Towed FMCA #401054 |
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"Monaco Owners Forum Member" |
Sorry guys for the poor spelling. I tired and it has been a long day of baseball field prep., cutting grass, cleaning the gutters etc.
2008 Monaco Monarch 34SBD Ford F 53 Chassis 2007 Ford Explorer V8 Towed FMCA #401054 |
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